Saturday, June 10, 2006

Do The Muslims Love Their Children Too


With much love to that sage of humanity, Sting:


In Europe and America
There's a growing feeling of hysteria
Conditioned to respond to all the threats
In the rhetorical speeches of the Soviets

Mister Bin Laden said, 'We will bury you'
I don't subscribe to this point of view
It'd be such an ignorant thing to do
If the Muslims love their children too

How can I save my little boy
From Ahmadinejad's deadly toy?
There is no monopoly on common sense
On either side of the political fence
We share the same biology
Regardless of ideology
Believe me when I say to you
I hope the Muslims love their children too

There is no historical precedent to put

Words in the mouth of the president
There's no such thing as a winnable war
It's a lie we don't believe anymore
Mister Bush says 'We will protect you'
I don't subscribe to this point of view
Believe me when I say to you
I hope the Muslims love their children too



What a naiive mofo that Sting was.

Is he still alive?


UPDATE: D.C. writes in to say the following:

I can tell you yes, Muslims love their kids, YES! But not those in these images. They are fanatics who love their sick cause more than their kids and their own lives. The Palestinians society is a mentally sick one, but not all Muslims in the world embrace their ways or the jiahdis ways.

All the Muslims I know, would be outraged at these pictures. It's important that we make that message clear if we want to help fighting terror. It's important that we teach not encourage more hatred.

Bashing all Muslims is like calling all Germans Nazis. It create gaps rather than bridges.


Yes, I agree. I do not, at all, mean to say that all Muslims would raise their children to be suicicde bombers, or Jihadists. So, if that is the impression left by this post, or any other post I write, then I apologize, and I ask forgiveness.

The thing is, however, I do want to make it clear how incredibly disappointed I am in the Muslim community at large because of the fact that there are no major Muslim organizations that will condemn terrorism, Sharia, and Jihad.

When I write a post like the one above, the reason I come off as so hardcore is because, for all we know given the messages we receive from the Muslim community at large, we have no idea whether you stand for terror, or not.

Instead, I have to go by anecdotal evidence and personal experience. I have known Muslims who were very nice people, and who did not seem to believe in terrorism, etc.

Likewise, I have friends who have friends who are Muslim. They tell me they are nice people. Great. I am happy. I want to know nice Muslim people.

But, this kind of thing is not nearly as reassuring as if there were an organization of Muslims, a million or ten million strong, which condemned terrorism in clear terms. That would be more reassuring than knowing 10-20 nice people.

See what I mean?

11 comments:

Anonymous said...

Yeah, but I don't think he's ever gotten over that concert rehearsal he filmed being interrupted by 9/11 a few years back.

Speaking of overexposed twits, America's!Greatest!Author!John!Updike has phoned in a piece of trash titled "Terrorist", in which his young jihadist hero Ahmed tries to stop those evil decadent "insects" (i.e., New Yorkers and other Americans) from stealing his god away from him. (Rumor has it that Mr. Upchuck researched the American Muslim milieu by paying a cabbie to drive him around Jersey City for 4 hours.) Now, it's just my luck that the esteemed author lives a couple of towns over and occasionally visits the branch of The Bookstore That Must Not Be Named I work at. Anybody got any messages I can convey to him next time he shows up? ("Bite me" is taken.)

Pastorius said...

Hey Little Red Bird,

I have family in Reading PA. I know that's where Upchuck is from, as well as my favorite poet Wallace Stevens.

I don't, however, know if Upchuck still lives in Reading. He probably lives in New Englad now, I'm guessing.

Anyway, I don't know about the Sting film. Tell me about it. He has been strangely silent the past few years, hasn't he?

I just figured it was because he was dead.

Anyway, the thing about Updike researching his novel by taking a cab ride through Jersey reminds me of how Springsteen researched that album Ghost Of Tom Joad (which was about illegal immigrants crossing the border) by reading an LA Times article.

These guys deserved to be tarred and feathered.

Always On Watch said...

There's no such thing as a winnable war
It's a lie we don't believe anymore


That sure helps, doesn't it? If we can't win this "war," then what are we supposed to do? Go belly-up?

Naive is a nicer word than I'd have used.

Pastorius said...

I was feeling charitable.

Anonymous said...

He's in New England all right, Pastorius -- Ipswich, MA, to be exact. Nice town, oldest stone bridge in US, but alas many of the stone headed citizens you get in Blue states such as ours.

There was a TV special of Sting a couple years ago, I think it was a day-long rehearsal for a concert (in Europe of course) and in the middle of it 9/11 arrived on the telly. Earnest consternation all around at the time, I think we even got a rendition of "Fragile", not that I would have expected anything so blatant as "had it coming to them".

Astonishing to me how these people can cavalierly ignore and evade reality as if it will never catch up with them even if it engulfs the rest of us. Like the people who stood on the beaches and filmed the tsunami coming at them.

Pastorius said...

Little Red Bird,
That is an excellent comparison/metaphor. You have a poetic mind.

Thanks.

mts said...

http://tipjar.blogspot.com/2005/08/do-they-love-their-children-too.html
http://tipjar.blogspot.com/2006/02/motherly-love.html

Like you, this is a song that keeps coming up in my mind too whenever I see how happy those people are to promote death to their children. But just keep listening to the msm mantra that it is the tiny minority of Muslims who misinterpret the message of Islam, and not the 99% Muslim Moderates, who are killing. Forget that Muslim parents seem to dress their kids in suicide and terrorist outfits as casually and commonly as we have kids dress as ghosts on Halloween.

I grew up with the Cold War. Neither the Evil Empire nor the Free World was interested in self immolation in order to "win." Today's ChiComs aren't enthralled with suicide, either. The thought of getting a-bombed keeps them from adventures such as invading India, conquering Japan, etc.

But when people see the photos you posted, or the photos and video that I posted, it tells you how serious the Muslims are about not winning per se, but on destroying us. They are more than happy to throw their children at us to attack us, even if we kill every one. That's why using old solutions that we used with the Soviets, i.e. m.a.d., doesn't fit the peghole this time around. We can't scare them into a stalemate with the thought of world destruction, since if we a-bomb every last Middle East Muslim, they don't care as long as they get to bomb us. How do you defeat an army that uses children tied to each other who run across mine fields to clear them? You can't frighten a man (or society) that is willing and determined to die in the process of destoying you. You especially can't expect to sit at table and negotiate a nuke treaty and expect them to be honest.

I really don't know how the Isrealis do it and stay sane; going to bed every night and wondering if they are going to wake up in the morning, and not by the hot white flash of the bomb.

Pastorius said...

Hey MTS,

You have a good blog there. Would you care to become a contributor here?

If so, email me at cuanasblog@yahoo.com

Epaminondas said...

We have to understand.
They have been brutalized as a minority (200,000,000 vs 6,000,000) in a land always theirs and they are thus removed from any responsibility from their actions, by both moral relativism and the immutable document's fatwas (try to make that work).

SOMEONE TEACHES THIS SH*T to children, so that when THEY grow up, they teach it to their children and THEY need to be the targets

D.C. said...

Such a good point Pastorius.
Thank you for bringing it up.

I don't know how many times I have complained myself in blogs written by Muslims and liberal westerners or whatever how much we need to hear the outrage of the Muslim community in the world. It seems that all major Muslims organizations stay dead silent. especially when it comes to Israel. However, we are seeing something different happening in Canada in the past few days after the arrest of the 12 Muslims who were planning an attack. A major Muslim association is seriously distancing itself fro the Islamofascism. That is great news, finally!

The Muslims in Islamic nations are extremely careful, for obvious reasons, talking too much endangers people's life or their family's.
examples:

- A. few months ago I was chatting with N. He does his internet thing and blog in cafes while watching over his shoulders. He knew that he was being watched. He told me, it is really hard to talk, fanatics are around and they kill.
- C. another good pal I met 3 years ago, told me that when he sits at his computer, he closes all the curtains in his home.
- Omar who is at ITM, lost his brother in law recently in a terrorist attack. He and his young family had moved back in Iraq to help in the reconstruction.
- Wonderful Sandmonkey in Egypt is fearless and condemns openly the terror madness and Islam. He is pro-Israel and his is a Muslim, but a libertarian one. He is from a prominent family so maybe he feels a bit safer than the others. However his blogger pals go in jail for expressing their outrage about Islam and and law.
- Another pal of ours disappeared because his blogging did not please his government somewhere in the ME.
- M. loves wine and never prays, he hates the fanatics and the big beards, he hates the oppression of women and what is happening in Israel and Iraq. He loves America. He cries for what his culture has become. He feels shame and sadness. What do we want him to do, go and scream it so he can lose his job, his family, his life ?
- The religious Police in SA had to move out and leave everything, he was in serious danger.

We understand they have choice s tomake and that is what they must do, but for the love of God, it's not an easy task. We are not in their shoes. We don't have to leave everything. We are free and safe compare to therm.

The Muslim I hear condemning terror are usually in the West or they do so in the ME anonymously in blogs but still with fear. Those in the West usually have no or a little family living in these bloody dictatorships. Others do condemn terror, but do so privately to avoid big trouble or fights. None of that is enough, I know.
Those who dedicate their life to the cause, often are harassed or get fatwa's on their head and yet they use their real name, Amir Noramndi, Irsha Manjih, Hirshi Ali, Salman Rushdie and all the others... Not an easy way to go about one's life. I find them braver than we are. Moreover there is the damm social pressure from their ranks and the fact that it is not easy to put on the spot one's entire system of beliefs and the core of one's roots and they beieve in God. So the reason are as complex as they are numerous. But we need them to overcome all this and be more active. This will come, watch the future generations

This is why, I say we must unite since we all have a common enemy, fanatism. It's been around for ages too. You know even plain ordinary Westerners keep their mouth shut. What can we do ? I am the only in my neighborhood doing this openly. I lost most of my liberal friends cheering for American troops, Iraqis and Israelis. Anyway, we must teach and be open, as you do in your blogs. We must create links with decent people no matter the origin. We must not be intimidated by the apparent differences, we have more in common than we think. That is the conclusion our Muslims friends draw with me and others

If one wants to make Muslim friends, nothing is easier. I would suggest to simply go check their blogs, email them, talk to them, ask questions. They are great friends and often more polite than Westerners, passionate and as funny as we are, which is refreshing. It's interesting to hear what they have to say about all this as much if not more than to hear what we have to say. We know what we think and how we live, but we know little about what they are going through. All I know is what Sharansky suggested, we all cherish what ever freedom we have and we want more. I told one of my pals, "Alright you can't say a word, I understand, so from my comfortable and safe bubble in Canada I will do it for you." Many of us are doing it. This is good.

At Iraqi Blogger Central, we go through all the ME blogs almost daily and we report what in there, the good and the bad. We made great friends and some leftist Muslims are even becoming centrist, not the Jarrar family however. We conducted interviews with them, this was a wonderful way to open the channels of communication. One person at the time. We must do our homework if we want to make a difference. Together we are always stronger.

I love all your posts Jaco. You never need to apologize for the great work you do. We owe you.
And hell to the islamists and the terrorists! They can rot in hell as far I'm concerned.
Diane

Kiddo said...

I forget Golda Meir's exact quote, but it was something like this: "There will never be peace until the Palestinians love their children more than they hate the Jews". I've always found that statement appropriate.