All of us, every single man, woman, and child on the face of the Earth were born with the same unalienable rights; to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. And, if the governments of the world can't get that through their thick skulls, then, regime change will be necessary.
I wish I'd bought more beer on the way home. That is absolutely sickening. It didn't sound to me as if Thomas was being ironic, or even that he was accusing Obama of posturing. It sounded like that is what Thomas believes. Well, how surprising can that be coming from the son of socialist Norman Thomas?
Evan Thomas is absolutely right in what he says but wrong for why he is saying it. This is exactly what Obama believes of himself and is his mission. To unite the world as one big happy fucking kumbaya we used to be the bully but now we're all pals and I'm just the Godlike person to do it.
Spit.
Well, we were never the bully you fucking moron Evan. We were an enforcer, a (often reluctant) policeman that stood up to the bullies of the world. The Hitlers, the Husseins, the Andropov's. Once Obama has emasculated us (sorry, ladies, best word to use at the moment) what are the rest of you going to do, Merkel and Sarkozy and Brown et. al. when Putin bares his fangs for real, when and ascendant China makes her move, or a crazy damn NorK leader decides to send one flying south? Who ya gonna call?
This is precisely why I said a few days ago the biggest threat to The United States and our National sSecurity is not Al Qaida or North Korea or Iran or China or even Obama. It is our own fucking media who spew this vomit believe it themselves and thereby get a stupid sleeping citizenry to believe becasue they are too damn lazy to look elsewhere and too much of a rush for Little Johnny's soccer match and get home in time for Desperate Housewives to think for their fucking selves.
The media just can't bring itself to admit the truth. Barack Obama is a member of the Socialist International spreading the gospel of International Socialism. He acts as if he's above "America" because he is a UN One Worlder. And so are most Europeans. He was almost a founding member of the "New Party," as are most members of the Congressional Progressive Caucus.
After the lies of the McCarthy hearings, the American media cannot bring itself to call a Commie a Commie, so they prefer to confuse Obama's politics with a religion. This is just a smokescreen to keep Americans from knowing and understanding what is happening to their country.
"...you say (and I am not quoting) that every man possesses a point of weakness, an Achilles' heel, and by exploiting this a man may be made a hero or a martyr or a rag. Again, if I understand you correctly, you think that Western civilization has rested upon the principle that, whatever else was permitted or forbidden, the one heinous act which would destroy the world was to do precisely this--the deliberate act of tampering with human beings so as to make them behave in a way which, if they knew what they were doing, or what its consequences were likely to be, would make them recoil with horror and disgust. The whole of the Kantian morality (and I don't know about Catholics, but Protestants, Jews, Muslims and high-minded atheists believe it) lies in this; the mysterious phrase about men being "ends in themselves," to which much lip-service has been paid, with not much attempt to explain it, seems to lie in this: that every human being is assumed to possess the capacity to choose what to do, and what to be, however narrow the limits within which his choice may lie, however hemmed in by circumstances beyond his control; that all human love and respect rests upon the attribution of conscious motives in this sense; that all the categories, the concepts, in terms of which we think about and act towards one another--goodness, badness, integrity and lack of it, the attribution of dignity or honour to others which we must not insult or exploit, the entire cluster of ideas such as honesty, purity of motive, courage, sense of truth, sensibility, compassion, justice; and, on the other side, brutality, falseness, wickedness, ruthlessness, lack of scruple, corruption, lack of feelings, emptiness--all these notions in terms of which we think of others and ourselves, in terms of which conduct is assessed, purposes adopted--all this becomes meaningless unless we think of human beings as capable of pursuing ends for their own sakes by deliberate acts of choice--which alone makes nobility noble and sacrifices sacrifices. "
In a 1951 "Letter to George Kennan," Oxford scholar Isaiah Berlin recalled a scene in Fyodor Dostoevsky's "The Brothers Karamazov". In the scene, Ivan Karamazov says that if he could buy the happiness of all of mankind with the torture and resulting death of one completely innocent child, he could not do so. He would, as Berlin says, "return the ticket." Berlin goes on to say that no promise of eternal harmony in the future... will make us accept the use of human beings as mere means -- the doctoring of them until they are made to do what they do not for the sake of the purposes which are their own, fulfillment of hopes which however foolish or desperate are their own, but for reasons which only we, the manipulators, who freely twist them to our purposes, can understand. Berlin was referring to Nazi Germany (reaction of horror common people had to the deceptions used by the Gestapo to "relocate" and "exterminate" the Jews) and the moral predicament of the 50's era apparatchik's in Soviet Russia. I don't think Berlin ever would have dreamed that so-called progressive Marcusian neo-liberalism could gain the foothold it has in America or anywhere the West by violating this sacred law of "truly" liberal thought. George Kennan based his forecast of the eventual collapse of the Soviet Union upon this "moral predicament". He was the author of the successful US policy which lead to the collapse of the Soviet Union known as "containment".
"All this [the praise of our choicemaking volk] may seem an enormous platitude, but, if it is true, this is, of course, what ultimately refutes utilitarianism and what makes Hegel and Marx such monstrous traitors to our civilization. When, in the famous passage, Ivan Karamazov rejects the worlds upon worlds of happiness which may be bought at the price of the torture to death of one innocent child, what can utilitarians, even the most civilized and humane, say to him? After all, it is in a sense unreasonable to throw away so much human bliss purchased at so small a price as one--only one--innocent victim, done to death however horribly--what after all is one soul against the happiness of so many? Nevertheless, when Ivan says he would rather return the ticket, no reader of Dostoevsky thinks this cold-hearted or mad or irresponsible; and although a long course of Bentham or Hegel might turn one into a supporter of the Grand Inquisitor, qualms remain."
The entire text of Berlin's letter to Kennan can be found in a copy of "Four Essay's on Liberty".
And Obama and the US media are the traitors who sold out Western Civilization and "classical" liberalism for "three magic socialist beans".
FJ, Well said. Karamazov is a great book. The Great Inquisitor a great chapter. I like Berlin's statement about whether a course in Hegel might turn one into a supporter of the Grand Inquisitor.
I think we could rephrase the statement thusly;
a long, successful Obama administration might turn a whole nation into supporters of the Grand Inquisitor ....
Me, I'd prefer the simpler solution of running those responsible for the debacle twice round the Congress building on a pole after a good tarring and feathering, retirement funds be damned!
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All Communist/Socialist society have a religion: the personality cult of The Leader.
WTF?
I can't figure out from this short clip whether Evan Thomas meant this as a sort of ironic statement, or does he condone such posturing by Obama?
The reporter says "yeah" to Evan Thomas remark...he actually says "yeah"! This is appalling...and I suppose the masses will not take any notice of it.
Expect more of this bias and expect it to follow a very rigid script. . .
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I wish I'd bought more beer on the way home. That is absolutely sickening. It didn't sound to me as if Thomas was being ironic, or even that he was accusing Obama of posturing. It sounded like that is what Thomas believes. Well, how surprising can that be coming from the son of socialist Norman Thomas?
Sorry, I meant grandson.
Pasto,
I don't think that Thomas's words are meant as a joke.
I also noticed what Anonymous noticed:
The reporter says "yeah" to Evan Thomas remark...he actually says "yeah"!
RRA,
Better stock up on that beer. We're in for the long haul.
Andre 79,
Point well taken.
"I wish I'd bought more beer on the way home."
Ditto, but I'll rectify it right now.
how bad is it to concentrate on AMERICA like Reagan did?
It's only since we stopped that things have been going to hell in a handbag.
Did you hear Chris Matthews "yeeeaaaa...." OH, Ya, he's GOD alright..to the left. How sad.
I'm sure MR would agree with me. Beer ain't quite enough to fix this one. It sounds like that Wild Turkey Rare might be required.
What the hell was that stuff called?
Wild Turkey Rare Breed runs 108.4 proof.
And this video is taking the definition of syncophant to a whole new level.
Beer hell, I wish I'd bought more ammo.
Shalom Andre79!
If these people are serious, then our society is insane.
And, if our society has collapsed into complete insanity, then i predict we will soon see Jew-hatred spill over.
Shalom ve shavu'a tov, BabbaZee.
Evan Thomas is absolutely right in what he says but wrong for why he is saying it. This is exactly what Obama believes of himself and is his mission. To unite the world as one big happy fucking kumbaya we used to be the bully but now we're all pals and I'm just the Godlike person to do it.
Spit.
Well, we were never the bully you fucking moron Evan. We were an enforcer, a (often reluctant) policeman that stood up to the bullies of the world. The Hitlers, the Husseins, the Andropov's. Once Obama has emasculated us (sorry, ladies, best word to use at the moment) what are the rest of you going to do, Merkel and Sarkozy and Brown et. al. when Putin bares his fangs for real, when and ascendant China makes her move, or a crazy damn NorK leader decides to send one flying south? Who ya gonna call?
This is precisely why I said a few days ago the biggest threat to The United States and our National sSecurity is not Al Qaida or North Korea or Iran or China or even Obama. It is our own fucking media who spew this vomit believe it themselves and thereby get a stupid sleeping citizenry to believe becasue they are too damn lazy to look elsewhere and too much of a rush for Little Johnny's soccer match and get home in time for Desperate Housewives to think for their fucking selves.
The media just can't bring itself to admit the truth. Barack Obama is a member of the Socialist International spreading the gospel of International Socialism. He acts as if he's above "America" because he is a UN One Worlder. And so are most Europeans. He was almost a founding member of the "New Party," as are most members of the Congressional Progressive Caucus.
After the lies of the McCarthy hearings, the American media cannot bring itself to call a Commie a Commie, so they prefer to confuse Obama's politics with a religion. This is just a smokescreen to keep Americans from knowing and understanding what is happening to their country.
"...you say (and I am not quoting) that every man possesses a point of weakness, an Achilles' heel, and by exploiting this a man may be made a hero or a martyr or a rag. Again, if I understand you correctly, you think that Western civilization has rested upon the principle that, whatever else was permitted or forbidden, the one heinous act which would destroy the world was to do precisely this--the deliberate act of tampering with human beings so as to make them behave in a way which, if they knew what they were doing, or what its consequences were likely to be, would make them recoil with horror and disgust. The whole of the Kantian morality (and I don't know about Catholics, but Protestants, Jews, Muslims and high-minded atheists believe it) lies in this; the mysterious phrase about men being "ends in themselves," to which much lip-service has been paid, with not much attempt to explain it, seems to lie in this: that every human being is assumed to possess the capacity to choose what to do, and what to be, however narrow the limits within which his choice may lie, however hemmed in by circumstances beyond his control; that all human love and respect rests upon the attribution of conscious motives in this sense; that all the categories, the concepts, in terms of which we think about and act towards one another--goodness, badness, integrity and lack of it, the attribution of dignity or honour to others which we must not insult or exploit, the entire cluster of ideas such as honesty, purity of motive, courage, sense of truth, sensibility, compassion, justice; and, on the other side, brutality, falseness, wickedness, ruthlessness, lack of scruple, corruption, lack of feelings, emptiness--all these notions in terms of which we think of others and ourselves, in terms of which conduct is assessed, purposes adopted--all this becomes meaningless unless we think of human beings as capable of pursuing ends for their own sakes by deliberate acts of choice--which alone makes nobility noble and sacrifices sacrifices. "
In a 1951 "Letter to George Kennan," Oxford scholar Isaiah Berlin recalled a scene in Fyodor Dostoevsky's "The Brothers Karamazov". In the scene, Ivan Karamazov says that if he could buy the happiness of all of mankind with the torture and resulting death of one completely innocent child, he could not do so. He would, as Berlin says, "return the ticket." Berlin goes on to say that no promise of eternal harmony in the future... will make us accept the use of human beings as mere means -- the doctoring of them until they are made to do what they do not for the sake of the purposes which are their own, fulfillment of hopes which however foolish or desperate are their own, but for reasons which only we, the manipulators, who freely twist them to our purposes, can understand. Berlin was referring to Nazi Germany (reaction of horror common people had to the deceptions used by the Gestapo to "relocate" and "exterminate" the Jews) and the moral predicament of the 50's era apparatchik's in Soviet Russia. I don't think Berlin ever would have dreamed that so-called progressive Marcusian neo-liberalism could gain the foothold it has in America or anywhere the West by violating this sacred law of "truly" liberal thought. George Kennan based his forecast of the eventual collapse of the Soviet Union upon this "moral predicament". He was the author of the successful US policy which lead to the collapse of the Soviet Union known as "containment".
"All this [the praise of our choicemaking volk] may seem an enormous platitude, but, if it is true, this is, of course, what ultimately refutes utilitarianism and what makes Hegel and Marx such monstrous traitors to our civilization. When, in the famous passage, Ivan Karamazov rejects the worlds upon worlds of happiness which may be bought at the price of the torture to death of one innocent child, what can utilitarians, even the most civilized and humane, say to him? After all, it is in a sense unreasonable to throw away so much human bliss purchased at so small a price as one--only one--innocent victim, done to death however horribly--what after all is one soul against the happiness of so many? Nevertheless, when Ivan says he would rather return the ticket, no reader of Dostoevsky thinks this cold-hearted or mad or irresponsible; and although a long course of Bentham or Hegel might turn one into a supporter of the Grand Inquisitor, qualms remain."
The entire text of Berlin's letter to Kennan can be found in a copy of "Four Essay's on Liberty".
And Obama and the US media are the traitors who sold out Western Civilization and "classical" liberalism for "three magic socialist beans".
FJ,
Well said. Karamazov is a great book. The Great Inquisitor a great chapter. I like Berlin's statement about whether a course in Hegel might turn one into a supporter of the Grand Inquisitor.
I think we could rephrase the statement thusly;
a long, successful Obama administration might turn a whole nation into supporters of the Grand Inquisitor ....
...and all to escape the evils of financial ruin, brought down upon them by Comrade's Frank and Dodd of the House and Senate Banking Committees.
Indeed they might sell their soul's for a "sounder" retirement fund...
Me, I'd prefer the simpler solution of running those responsible for the debacle twice round the Congress building on a pole after a good tarring and feathering, retirement funds be damned!
FJ,
round the Congress building on a pole after a good tarring and feathering, retirement funds be damned!
Hear, hear!
I'll be there if we can get this done.
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