Saturday, August 08, 2009

There Is No God but God?

12 comments:

Anonymous said...

The first part of the Shahadah in Arabic is: "La ILAHa ilALLAH...". (There is no god but Allah).

Always On Watch said...

Good one!

Pastorius said...

Excellent work, Avenging Apostate.

So, do you agree with me that Allah is simply the name of another "god" in history?

I believe this "god" took on the name of "Allah" in order to, once again, try to put himself in the place of the One True God. He believes he was not given due credit under his old name, so he is, in effect, attempting to rebrand himself.

christian soldier said...

:-) (-:
Thank you--
Will 'swipe' when I get back -if that's OK
C-CS

Damien said...

Avenging Apostate,

I would like to hear you go into more detail on this subject.

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Pastorius,

Yes I agree with you that Allah is just "another" god in history. Allah is not the Arabic for the word God. Allah is a name, kinda like Baal or Yahweh. Are Baal and Yahweh the same God? No! Of course not. The same way, Allah and the God of the Bible have nothing in common. I understand the leftist media's need to be politically correct but I am tired of it.

Muslims in the west have tried to pass Allah off as, "your God and my god are the same, we are brothers, we all worship the same god" but I see it as Taqiyya and nothing else. And I have ample proof to back my conclusion!

Damien,

I would love to go into more detail. However, there are many things that I can talk about which would constitute completely different topics. For example, there is the grammatical approach. There is the approach of Allah and El sounding the same. We can look into Allah's character and see what kind of god he was and whether he compares with the God of the Bible or not.

If there is something specific you are interested in, then I can address that in the comment section. If you are suggesting I do a detailed blog entry on this, well, I want to--but that will take some time.

Pastorius said...

Avenging Apostate,
He certainly does not act like the same God as one finds in the Bible.

He acts more like the gods Baal or Molach.

I have one question for you. You mention that Yahweh is a name for the God of the Bible, as is Adonai and Elohim. It would be a reasonable thing for a Christian to say Yahweh is the one true God.

So, why is it wrong for Muslims to say Allah is God, other than for the obvious reason that he is not?

Is my question clear?

Anonymous said...

Pastorius,

Two things. First, Yahweh is God's name in the Bible. While El = God, Elohim = gods or God and Adonai = Lord i.e. they are titles.

Allah = the name of Islamic god, Ilah would be translated as "god"or "God", depending on who you were talking about.

Second thing is: I am not saying that it is wrong for Muslims to believe that Allah is their god. The point that I am raising is that Allah, the word in itself, doesn't "mean" god. To rephrase, if we translated Allah from Arabic to English, it wouldn't be translated as God but it would be translated as ALLAH. Saying "Allah translated into English is God" is just like saying, "Pastorius translated into English is MAN".

Muslims can believe Allah is their god all they want, I am just sick of Muslims AND some Christians and Jews telling me and the world that when I pray to Yahweh, I am just praying to Allah because we all just believe in the same God anyway. And that is what I don't agree with. The 4 classical Sunni Muslim schools of thought would brand it blasphemy of the worst kind if anyone even attempted to translate Allah as the English word god.

Anyway, a side note: We don't really know how "YHVH" is pronounced. That's what the "Christian" scholars think it might have been. Jewish Bible (or the Tanakh as they call it) doesn't say YAHWEH, it says HASHEM instead, which literally means "the Name" because they treat "YHVH" as so holy that it shouldn't be pronounced 'lest' it be treated as uttering God's name in vain.

Pastorius said...

Oh, I get it.

My brain must not be working today. Sorry about that.

Anonymous said...

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Anonymous said...

Pastorius,

That's alright. I am half sleepy as I reply to you so I understand. Sometimes getting one's mind to work is harder than convincing Hussein Obama he ain't god almighty.

Anonymous said...

Sorry, that should've read "half asleep" <--- just proved my point! ;-)