Friday, March 19, 2010

What a Douchebag

Simon Cowell to Convert to Islam to Marry Girlfriend?

From Logan's Warning:

Here we go again, another ignorant Hollywood “star” might take the leap, and join the religion of lying, rape, and war. Cowell was born in the UK, so he must have some idea what is going on there with Islam. Maybe he will completely surrender, and get married in one of the UK’s Sharia Courts. If he converts, mark him up as a traitor to Western Civilization. Maybe he can judge American Idol by Islamic Law.

Simon Cowell to convert to Islam to marry girlfriend?
2010-03-17

Mezhgan Hussainy’s family wants music mogul Simon Cowell to convert to Islam before he marries her, says a report.

The ‘American Idol’ judge had proposed to Hussainy last week.

‘They’re very westernised, but no one in their family has ever married a non-Muslim – and they’re not willing for their youngest daughter to become the first,’ digitalspy.co.uk quoted a source as saying about Hussainy’s parents Mary and Sayed.

Hussainy’s sister-in-law Erlene Garcia was also asked to convert before marrying her brother Wahid.

According to Hussainy’s friend, ‘Mezhgan is very reluctant about asking Simon to convert…and she knows how controversial it will be.’

‘Simon might be a big deal in the UK, but there are other people in the Afghan community in Los Angeles who her parents will be more afraid of offending. It would bring shame on their family and community if Simon did not respect their beliefs,’ the friend added.

Link to Article

Do the beliefs of non-Muslims ever count, how about she leaves Islam for him?

36 comments:

Anonymous said...

there are other people in the Afghan community in Los Angeles who her parents will be more afraid of offending. It would bring shame on their family and community if Simon did not respect their beliefs,’ the friend added.

how orwellian....

he doesnt convert and its disrespectfull??!!!

Reliapundit said...

insane.

and/or: she must be hot in bed.

cjk said...

If he converts it will probably only bring him more street cred in that cesspool called Hollywood that I'm guessing he slithers around in.

Ray Boyd said...

This is pure speculation. Somehow I don't think Simon Cowell will convert to Islam. When and if Simon Cowell says he is going to convert then he would deserve the vitriol expressed here on this blog.

Actually he is a successful Brit in the US. I wonder if that is the reason for the hate?

Pastorius said...

Ray,
Mick Jagger is a successful Brit in the US, and so was George Harrison. I like those guys.

My starting point with Simon Cowell is, I don't like him much.

I think he's a very smart guy who wastes his time on crap. He is very shortsighted. I spent many years in the music business.

I have reason to dislike people like Simon Cowell. They are ruining the music business with their short-sightedness.

You say, "If he converts to Islam ..."

What the hell is he doing going out with a Muslim girl in the first place?

Or, is she telling him, "I'm not really Muslim ..."

Ray Boyd said...

"What the hell is he doing going out with a Muslim girl in the first place?"

I understand that he is smitten by her. Maybe she will ignore the wishes of family.

We all have the right to not like people on the other hand he has - in the UK - found stars such as Leona Lewis through his X Factor show.

As you say he is a very smart guy. In my view too smart to consider converting to islam unless love conquers all and he loses all reason.

Pastorius said...

In the U.S. he found Kelly Clarkson and Jennifer Hudson. So, he is successful.

But, the reality is, these people are not the next Mick Jaggers or George Harrisons.

They are not really artists. They are singers.

An artist, by my definition, is a person who brings the unique perspective of his or her own humanity to the music he or she CREATES.

A person who merely sings the songs he or she is given to sing (by some producer) and who works out how to sing those songs (with a vocal coach) is not an artist.

Additionally, the emphasis on packaging and marketing means every album is such a production, and is promoted in the marketplace for so long that each album becomes a brand in and of itself.

One of the reasons the Beatles were so great, and an entire generation felt as if they grew up with the Beatles, is because the Beatles put out 12 albums in six years.

So, just as teenagers grow very quickly for about six years, the Beatles grew very quickly for about six years.

This could not happen in todays marketplace where an album is recorded for a year and then released and promoted for two years.

Three years between albums.

By the time the artist releases another album, the teen has moved on to something else entirely.

And, the artist has to refigure out who he or she is again, after all that touring and promotion.

That's why artists only have one or two albums and then disappear nowadays.

And, it is the fault of people like Simon Cowell.

And, it is a tragedy if one actually likes music.

Understand, I devoted about 20 years of my life to music. It is a very personal thing to me. So when I say these things, I am not saying something lightly.

You might be surprised, for instance, to find that I tend to agree with Simon in his comments about 90% of the time. I think he is very sharp.

But, he is missing the big picture.

Very sad.

And, in even dating a Muslim girl, he is also missing the big picture.

It's just more evidence of what is wrong with him. I know he likes opera, but somehow the man seems soulless.

Look, if he publicly rebukes his girlfriend's family, that will be another matter.

What they said is tremendously bigoted. Muslims have to stop it with the bigotry. And, we infidels have to stop putting up with it. We have to draw the line.

Yeah, you could say that doesn't begin with Simon Cowell. But, he has put himself in a position where he is subject to bigotry. Is he going to stand up against it like a man?

Epaminondas said...

And Cowell continues to promote women abasing themselves as entertainers, and essentially prostitutes for the kufr?

If that is Islam, we are all set.

Something is missing people.

Epaminondas said...

You are right.

But I am saying these guys fail the takfir test.

Ibn Tamiyya chops them every time.

I hope shes asks.

I hope he IS Simon Cowell when she does.

Her 'talents' cannot be THAT huge, not for a guy with decent looks and a zillion dollars

Ray Boyd said...

Pasto: I concede to your musical knowledge.

Trouble is it's all in the past. Not much new real talent about - or maybe that's your point.

cjk said...

Vitriol and hate?
Actually if you read what I said, the gist of any vitriol or hate that I expressed was aimed at Hollywood (USA)

Pastorius said...

Sadly, I think there is a lot of new talent about, and the music industry grinds the new talent into dust faster and faster with each passing artist.

Amy Winehouse is a genius singer out of England in just the past few years. Jet is great (they're also English). The White Stripes are great (American). Ryan Adams is great (American).

There's no shortage of great music.

Luckily, both the White Stripes and Ryan Adams have been producing at least one album per year. Sometimes more.

Anonymous said...

Neko Case.

That said, this is all hilarious to me. This "Moooslim" woman is 36years old, does not wear an Islamic shroud to cover her hot body, nor her beautiful face and hair, is a professional woman who has worked all her life, and is shirley not a virgin. Maybe her family will also force her to undergo a hymen restoration?

You know I've never watched a whole show of AI. I'm more a dancing with stars aficionado.

Hey, what happened to the rant/comment board? Bah!

Pastorius said...

MLAR,
Sorry, I got distracted and forgot about the rant board.

I don't much care whether the woman is a moderate. My problem with this story is the bigotry of her family.

Pastorius said...

MLAR,
Hey, write me at

cuanasblog

at

yahoo.com

Anonymous said...

But Pasto,

That's part and parcel of the bigotry and hyprocrisy. Do they think for a minute that their daughter has not been behaving like a proper Muslim girl? No, what matters is that Simon convert to their religion. Meanwhile the woman would be stoned back in her native Afghanistan for having sexual relations outside of an arranged marriage. Too weird this stuff.

Pastorius said...

So then, your argument is that there is absolute moral equivalence between Islam, Judaism, and Christianity.

Is that correct?

Anonymous said...

Fundamentally? Yes! Why anyone would want to worship a megalomaniacal dictator like Jehovah/Allah, or believe in such an infantile concept of God is beyond me. All three are equally retarded!

The Abrahamic religions managed to bulldoze indigenous "pagan" cultures (from Greco-Roman Europe and Zoroastrian Persia, through to Hindu India and Egypt and tropical Africa and the Americas and the Oceania), they spread homophobia, misogyny, misanthropy, and other evils all over the world. But the fundamental problem with the Abrahamic cults (aside from the fact that they are founded on lies) is that they are primitive Semitic rule-based religions, utilizing a primitive rule-based ethics, as opposed to a more advanced principle-based ethical system. (Hence why the Dharmic religions - Hinduism, Jainism, and Buddhism are FAR superior.) There is of course the age-old paradox. Is it good BECAUSE God decrees it and bad BECAUSE God condemns it? Or does God decree what IS good and condemn what IS bad? For the Jew, this question is irrelevant, but the Jew defaults to the former position (there is no inherent morality, only God's fiat), and this much is true (to a slightly lesser extent) for the Mohammedan as well. The Christian view is somewhat more nuanced, but Christianity is yet another poisoned fruit from the Abrahamic root which regards morality as the whim of a deity. None of these religions ask WHY what is moral is moral and what is evil is evil. They simply assume that the will of a pathologically narcicisstic deity must be followed. A further consequence of this rule-based "morality" is that believers in ALL THREE religious traditions seek to follow the letter of the law if not the spirit and constantly look for loopholes.

Even Christianity (which is not REALLY based on Jesus so much as the redaction of a Pharisaic Jew named Saul/Paul, who sought to meld Jewish ideas with pagan beliefs) does not fall far from this tree. To understand the reason for the cricifixion or the Catholic sacrament of communion, you need to dig into the Old Testament roots of the tradition. Yahweh was a pagan god in the Semitic Canaanite pantheon who craved human blood, like Baal or the Phoenician deities, the prototypical figure for Yahweh liked human sacrifice, especially of children. THAT is why he asked Abraham to murder his son (but then got a wild hair up his ass and changed his mind before the deed was done). Instead, the demonic desert deity of the Hebrews discouraged human sacrifice and instituted animal sacrifice as a supplement. THAT is why the character of YHWH took delite in the Jewish genocide of the Canaanites in the Old Testament (the blood of their victims placating his divine bloodlust). THAT is why he needed his "son" to take human form and die a bloody death. (Though Christians paradoxically believe that Jesus Christ is God as much of his son. Apparently God is some sort of incestuous time traveler...) THAT is why Christians ritually consume the flesh and blood of their Jewish god man. Islam is only the latest stupid religion to inherit this blood-soaked legacy.

To say that Islam is inherently worse than the other two is stupid, malicious, and blatantly dishonest. They're all the same shit!

Of course I can despise these religions without any ill feelings towards their followers. If you see anything "moral" in the barbarous Old Testament then you are beyond human decency, but most Christians are decent people, just like most Jews, and most Muslims.

Anonymous said...

But just as detesting the religions does not necessarily mean detesting the followers, calling all the religions equally stupid, wrong, and evil does not mean ALL of their followers are necessarily equivalent. Let's compare!

Christianity: over 1 billion worldwide

Islam: over 1 billion worldwide

Judaism: maybe 10 or 20 million worldwide

(The very low Jewish population explains the shortage of Jewish terrorists and suicide bombers.)

Further...

Christians: Most of them are nominal believers, atheist or at least deist in all but name. Or they pick and choose what to follow.

Jews: Almost entirely secular. Non-Orthodox denominations are really Deistic sects based more on humanism than the Torah. Many Dati Leumi and Modern Orthodox are really closet atheists.

Islam: These motherfuckers take that shit seriously!

So why the difference? Christianity had an Enlightenment. Jews scattered within Christendom in turn had Haskalah. Muslims had no such process, for reasons that are not entirely clear. Western civilization basically flourished early on, during PAGAN times, then flourished again later on through the Enlightenment. Between those times, when Christians took their religion seriously, they had something called the DARK AGES. It was secularization that gave us modern science, and the bourgeois revolutions. Revolutionary movements such as the American War of Independence and the French Revolution, lead by such figures as Voltaire, Paine, Washington, Franklin, Jefferson, Napoleon, Lincoln... [all Deists, btw].

If you were true to your pretension of being an "Infidel" Blogger's Alliance, you can rightfully criticize Islam along with the other poisonous Abrahamic doctrines. However, if you want to believe that Judaism and Christianity are somehow "special" despite proclaiming the same demonic god as Islam, then, sorry to say this, you are a fucking hypocrite.

Pastorius said...

Christianity and Judaism are different because of the reasons you outlined. You mentioned secular Judaism. You mentioned the Enlightenment. You neglected to mention the Reformation, the Talmudic process, the preaching of Jesus Christ, the change in the definition of sacrifice in Isaiah and latter Prophets, etc.

All these things brought Christianity and Judaism forward, and Islam has not gone forward in the same way.

So, Christianity and Judaism are different than Islam.

Where Christians behave like Muslims, for instance in Nigeria where Christians are attempting to enact a law to kill homosexuals, we do criticize Christians.

Pastorius said...

So then, if you were a Christian (and I realize you never would be), you would just ignore the part of the Bible where Jesus said "He who is without sin ought to cast the first stone."

And, if you were a Jew, you'd ignore the Oral Torah and the Talmud and the like, and all the compiled thoughts of Jewish history which indicate that we ought not stone gays, adulterers, and apostates to death, right?

Big difference between Christianity and Judaism on one hand, and Islam on the other is that Christians and Jews don't kill people who bring new ideas to their religion, so they progress.

I'm sure you have read the Prophets and the New Testament. You must be aware that there was a progression of thought during the course of the thousands of years during which the various books of the compiled Bible were written.

Pastorius said...

Anonymous,
You write: Are you on drugs or just stupid? Everything you mention that brought Christianity and Judaism "forward" also brought Islam "forward" because "Jesus Christ... Isaiah and latter Prophets," also figure in Islam.


I respond: Not true. Islam does not teach the Bible. The words of the Koran are perfect while the words of the Bible have been corrupted by Jews. That's what Muslims believe.

Furthermore, Jesus did not die on the cross according to Islam, but instead, most believe, Judas died on the cross in his place. So, the central event in the life of Jesus (that he was willing to lay down his life for his people) is subtracted by Islam.

Are you yourself a Muslim? The reason I ask is because the things you are saying about the relationship between Judaism, Christianity and Islam are what Muslims usually say when they attempt to proselytize.

The following quote from you simply is not true:

Everything you mention that brought Christianity and Judaism "forward" also brought Islam "forward" because "Jesus Christ... Isaiah and latter Prophets," also figure in Islam. Muslims revere those aforementioned figures as prophets as part of a succession in a line of prophets from Adam, Noah, Moses... down to Muhammad.

Anonymous said...

Oh no, I would never be a Christian! I have no need for an imaginary friend in the sky, but even if I did, I am not sure I would want to worship an undead Jew. As for what you mention about Christians and Jews not stoning people, you do realize that the (un)Holy Buybull is full of so many contradictions that a believer can cherry pick whatever they want. Jesus also said to "turn the other cheek" yet mysteriously, American Christians are largely in favor of capital punishment.

"Big difference between Christianity and Judaism on one hand, and Islam on the other is that Christians and Jews don't kill people who bring new ideas to their religion, so they progress."


Bull fucking shit!

Christians and Jews don't kill people who bring new ideas to their religion? Really? Try telling that to Jan Hus, or the victims of the Spanish Inquisition, or countless "heretics" slain by Christians before and after. Tell that to Jesus and Bar Kochba, both of whom were killed by the Jews for being "false messiahs" (according to the Talmud!). Your ignorance is showing!

"Not true. Islam does not teach the Bible. The words of the Koran are perfect while the words of the Bible have been corrupted by Jews. That's what Muslims believe."

And the Kkkoran is based on the Buybull. In a limited sense the Muslims have science on their side, the Bible (at least the Old Testament) WAS "corrupted" by the Jews. The Bible is not inerrant. Neither is the Koran, it is simply more consistent and coherent because it was written (allegedly) by one crazy old pedophile in a cave rather than scores of Jewish copyists.

"Are you yourself a Muslim?"

Haha! No. Are you RETARDED? The reason ask because you suspect that an atheist who openly despises the Abrahamic death cults (which by definition include Islam) of being a Muslim.

"The following quote from you simply is not true:"

Uuuuh... Yes it is!

But thanks for trying, fag!

Pastorius said...

Anonymous,
You believe Muslims follow the example of Jesus. I say they do not. I gave you a for instance; that Muslims do not believe that Jesus laid down his life for His people. They also do not believe He was the only begotten son of God. They don't believe He was the Prophesied God Messiah of Isaiah and Psalms. They believe that, in the End Times, the Jews must be killed before Allah can restore the world.

Their beliefs about who Jesus is, and what his importance is are completely different from the beliefs of Christians.

You are smart enough to know not to conflate two things that are different, even if they go by the same name.

I don't understand why you would even bother arguing the point. You're too smart for that.

And, in response to my comment that Christians don't murder people who do not agree with their beliefs, you give examples from thousands of years ago. Once again, you are conflating two things that are totally different. The first instance was of quality, this is of quantity.

Christians simply have not done the rampaging, raping and pillaging that Muslims have. And, Islam stipulates that raping and pillaging, the taking of concubines and slaves, is ok, and it still goes on to this day, in huge quantities. In Sudan, for instance, women and children are taken as sex slaves, and men are killed, or enslaved.

Anonymous said...

Here we go again! "Muslims do this, Christians do that, Jews do..." There are OVER ONE BILLION MUSLIMS just like there are ONE BILLION CHRISTIANS. You can not pigeonhole over a billion individuals, though you love doing that. We can talk about the religions, but it important not to confuse a religion with every single fucking follower or member. For the record, notwithstanding what you THINK, do Muslims follow the example of Jesus? Most do not, but then again neither do most Christians. (As the great Bertrand Russell briliantly pointed out!)

"I gave you a for instance; that Muslims do not believe that Jesus laid down his life for His people. They also do not believe He was the only begotten son of God... Their beliefs about who Jesus is, and what his importance is are completely different from the beliefs of Christians."

Well, all that applies to Jews as well so what in the HELL (pardon the pun!) is your point?

"They don't believe He was the Prophesied God Messiah of Isaiah and Psalms."

Actually Pastorius, your blatant lies notwitstanding, Muslims do believe that Jesus was the Messiah, or at least a messiah. Look it up! (Or are you to lazy to use Google?)

"They believe that, in the End Times, the Jews must be killed before Allah can restore the world."

Christians have similar End Times beliefs. Just swap "Allah" with "Christ."

"And, in response to my comment that Christians don't murder people who do not agree with their beliefs, you give examples from thousands of years ago."

Well, your usage of the infinitive was misleading. I was not aware you meant it STRICTLY in the present tense, so I took your statement that Christians and Jews NEVER commit atrocities. Even so, your historical illiteracy rears its ugly head yet again. Your qualification "thousands of years ago" implies 2000 or more years in the past. All my examples happened in the Common Era. Had you said hundreds of years ago, then you would not embarass yourself with your historical ignorance.

But that is an important point. Why did Christians suddenly stop acting like barbarians while Muslims continue such barbarous behaviors?

"Christians simply have not done the rampaging, raping and pillaging that Muslims have."

O RLY? You forgot something. Or were those events fabricated like the Holocaust. [No I am NOT denying the Holocaust, only being sarcastic!] Btw, your usage of the past tense implies that Christians never rampaged or raped-and-pillaged.

"And, Islam stipulates that raping and pillaging, the taking of concubines and slaves, is ok, and it still goes on to this day, in huge quantities."

Well so does the repugnant Old Testament. The fact that the Koran repeats that shows that it is about equally repugnant. Of course the only real difference between Islam and the rest is that whereas many Muslims continue barbaric practices associated with the Islamic faith, Christians have ceased their own religious barbarity (relatively recently I might add). Remeber that Christians had slavery on a massive scale until approximately 145 years ago, often using the Old and New Testament to justify the practice. [And Jews simply never had the power to commit atrocities on the scale of the Christians or Muslims due to always being a small percentage of the global population, existing as small isolated communities for much of their history, and lacking state power. Now that they have their own Judenstaat in Palestine, they are gradually returning to their genocidal Old Testament roots.]

Do you really think that the moral gap between Christianity and Islam is inherent? I do not think that anything in the mythology makes Christians morally superior or Muslims morally inferior. A key difference is that Christians (as a whole) never took their religion as seriously as contemporaneous Muslims (as a whole) for centuries.

Anonymous said...

But, FOR THE LAST GOD DAMN MOTHERFUCKING time, I am NOT an apologist for Islam. I only take issue with: (1) your libel/slander of Islam, which is admittedly minor exaggeration on your part and ironically Islam is barbarous enough without your hyperbole; (2) your pigeonholing of Muslims as people as if every single one of them is a fundamentalist; (3) your willingness to give a free pass to Judaism and Christianity when it is all the same shit!

I actually agree with you much of the way with regards to Islam, I just do not spare its similarly vile cousins from similar criticism.

Personally, I do not see the need for the Abrahamic religions in the modern world. A much better ethical foundation would be to maximize the happiness of all sentient beings. What's wrong with that? Certainly better than blindly obeying the behests of a megalomaniacal deity! Frankly religion has very little to do with morality and vice versa. Individual Jews can be good people despite associating with an amoral racist religion, individual Muslims can be good people despite associating with an amoral religion, and Christians manage to be good, usually by following the teachings of Jesus in a secular humanistic sort of way. (I.e. if they follow Jesus as a moral philosopher rather than regarding him as a deity but disregarding his teachings in favor of the morality of power-hungry institutions called "churches.")

Anonymous said...

Wow, ignorance reaching high heaven here.

I'll come back to these comments later. I have to sift through all the nonsense and cursing that is posted here.

Anonymous said...

@ "Avenging Apostate" (i.e. Mentally Challenged Israel-First Drone):

That you call it "ignorance" and "nonsense" is indication that you are either (a) too stupid to comprehend, (b) offended by the facts presented, or (c) both! Also I find it amusing that a little pseudo-puritan faggot like yourself fakes outrage at the "cursing" when your blog comes with the label: "PARENTAL ADVISORY I SAY [insert curse word(s)] A LOT."

"I'll come back to these comments later. I have to sift through..."

Then why bother posting? We all know that you have no wish to even bother to "sift through all" the lengthy diatribe(s). I take that as an admission that you have nothing to say.

With such mental midgets on this big gay blog (really why so many team members on one blog? I don't mean to be homophobic, but so many men sharing a blog, it's a little gay, like a "blogosphere slumber party."), it is no wonder that Pastorius is the only one to answer criticism. Pastorius is at least capable of thought.

Pastorius said...

Avenging Apostate has responded to your comments here:

http://ibloga.blogspot.com/2011/04/avenging-apostate-replies-to-anonymous.html

"Anonymous Coward" Responds said...

@ Pastorius:

So I am aware. In fact, I replied to nearly everyone of his imbecilic falsehoods, straw man arguments, distortions, non sequiturs, and insults. That is, of course, assuming that the smarmy, sniveling little faggot "Avenging Apostate" even responded in the first place. I notice that it says "posted by Pastorius." It is obvious that you at least helped him out. (A complete retard like "Avenging Apostate" is incapable of more than buying time and you covered for his ass...) For all I know, you authored the entire post.

And what's with the stupid Israeli flag avatar? He's not Israeli, he's not even Jewish!

Pastorius said...

You are one angry man, aren't you? Wow.

Is your question about the Israeli flag directed at me, or Avenging
Apostate.

I posted this for Avenging Apostate, because he is concerned about posting these days. He lives in the Middle East, and someone in his area was recently arrested and is imprisoned without charges for doing close to the same thing he does here.

Anyway, in my opinion, your responses to the Pagan comments were, essentially this:

I concede your point, paganism was bloodthirsty. I didn't say it wasn't. But not all paganism is bloodthirsty, and anyway, Christianity is bad too, especially that part about eating the body and blood of Christ, which is really bad even if it is symbolic.

"Anonymous Coward" said...

Pastorius says:
"You are one angry man, aren't you? Wow."

Says the guy who leads a blog specializing in posting soft-core pornography and over-the-top Islamophobic propaganda. And you know me, how? Based on a borderline sarcastic/sardonic/hyperbolic string of posts to what is, admittedly a stupid, silly, sensationalist blog. I'm just some anonymous coward, and you, Pastorius are just as much an anonymous coward. BTW, I have no interest in "winning" with you, but by publicizing comments like mine we who post such comments win by default. (Notwithstanding the woefully uninformed opinion of the scores of inbred yokel troglodytes who frequent your joke of a blog.)

"Is your question about the Israeli flag directed at me, or Avenging Apostate."

Pastorius, I think it is obvious that my usage of "he's" rather than "you're" (not to mention the fact that you don't have an Israeli flag) avatar should answer your question, at AA.

"I posted this for Avenging Apostate, because he is concerned about posting these days. He lives in the Middle East, and someone in his area was recently arrested and is imprisoned without charges for doing close to the same thing he does here."

Sorry, I just don't buy that Pastorius. He's afraid to post but how did you get the message? Not to mention at least one line (the smartass one about present perfect tense) HAD to have been written by you. Do you expect me to believe that AA is a psychic with an inside track on your mind? This proves that you wrote SOME of it and supports my allegation that it was a collaborative post.

But that raises the question. If AA is so fearful, then why doesn't he move out of Durkhadurkhastan? Since he loves Israel so much, why not apply for Israeli citizenship.

"I concede your point, paganism was bloodthirsty. I didn't say it wasn't. But not all paganism is bloodthirsty, and anyway, Christianity is bad too, especially that part about eating the body and blood of Christ, which is really bad even if it is symbolic."

Somewhat, more or less. Kind of a simplified "dumbed-down" synopsis, but yeah, that's the jist. So? Your point?

I have a serious question for you Pastorius. While I would not consider you a genius or brilliant or gifted, or particularly intelligent or smart, nor do I think you are particularly unintelligent. If I call you stupid or dumb or a moron/retard/imbecile/idiot, I am doing so in jest. Should I apply any such pejorative terms to Avenging Apostate, I mean them with the utmost sincerity. Actually, I ALMOST feel bad because I think AA might actually be mentally handicapped. You, on the other hand strike me as someone of average intelligence, probably with an IQ between 90-110. My question is why a normally functioning adult like yourself would surround yourself with imbeciles like Avenging Apostate (who is literally too stupid to flee) and the rest of your comrades (Ray Boyd being a possible exception). Why? Does it make you feel smarter by comparison? Does it help you run an over-the-top sensationalist blog rather than a serious project?

It seems to me that you, Pastorius, are nothing more than an organ grinder and Avenging Apostate is one of your monkeys.

Pagan Paul said...

An oft abrasive fellow blogger of the atheist persuasion visited alerted me to the highly comical overreaction to his half-hearted diatribe that he posted some weeks ago by some know-it-all Arab on your blog team who calls himself “Avenging Apostate.” Having read the laughable attempt at rebuttal by Mr. Avenging Apostate, I just had to reply. For starters, this Avenging Apostate fellow has a severe penchant for making-shit-up. Additionally, his belief that paganism is some sort of monolithic entity, that “pagan religions” are distinct features hermetically sealed from their respective pre-Christian or pre-Islamic cultures (it almost NEVER is, with a few notable exceptions), or even that “paganism” (which by definition means all religious belief/practice that is not Jewish, Christian, or Muslim) is separated from Abrahamic religions (also false considering that every Abrahamic tradition has ultimately pagan roots, at least from the perspective of secular history), really reveals his woeful ignorance!

As a neo-Pagan, I should be deeply offended by AA’s rant, which was also ethnocentric, and indeed racist. He managed to insult EVERY culture, except of course for the Semitic desert savages from whom he happens to descend. (Okay, he neglected to disparage the Chinese or other Far East cultures but that’s probably because he was unable to dig/make shit up.) But I feel bad for the poor bastard. I truly think he may be mentally challenged. Besides, the aforementioned anonymous atheist blogger already tore him a new asshole. As I understand it, Avenging Apostate is a former Muslim, now some kind of Christian, presumably an American-style conservative Protestant “Judeo-Christian.” I think as a favor, I would like to share some humorous Jesus-themed material. Please make sure to share with him. I’m sure he’ll love it!

Jesus Facepalm
Jesus Fucking Christ
Jesus Fucking Christ cartoon [#1]
Jesus Fucking Christ cartoon [#2]
Jesus Hussein Christ
Jesus Loves You THIS Much!
Vampire Jesus
Vampire Jesus Poster
Jesus Undead Chart
Jesus Does Magic

This could be a good test case to determine whether the violent reaction of Arabs to perceived sacrilege is inherently Islamic or a racial disorder.

Pastorius said...

Heh.

That's pretty funny.

Avenging Apostate's post did not even suggest Paganism is a monolithic entity. On the contrary, he cited examples of Pagan primitivism from around the world.

That is not to say that Paganism is wholly evil. Instead the point was to compare Christianity vs. Paganism, as the Anonymous commenter said he would prefer Paganism.

I don't know why you are attempting to divide me from my fellows. If you do so, you do so in error, because

1) we are not united

2) I do agree with Avenging Apsotate on most, if not all, of what he wrote.

I am not going to respond to any more of your comments, because this game of comparing intelligence through insult is silly.

Were I to have a demonstrably higher IQ than you (if say, we had both taken IQ tests and the results had been registered in a public place so that we could compare) I would still not believe that that had much of anything to do with the discussion at hand. Intelligence does not guarantee one's ideas are correct. In fact, intelligent people are, often, particularly good are inventing arguments which sound correct, when they are not.

The question here is, do your facts back up your assertions.

I think they do not. You think they do.

That's the end of the argument.

Pagan Paul said...

QUESTION!

(1) Why are you confusing me with the (admittedly rather harsh) atheist blogger above, who posted days/weeks ago?

(2) What in the HELL (pardon the pun!) happened to MY post? Those links were for Avenging Apostate. I think he would appreciate it. (Or are you afraid that he will not enjoy the humor but he will instead go berserk, perhaps attempting a retaliatory suicide bombing against Muslims in Abu Dhabi or Dubai, as tends to happen with those people?)

Pagan Paul said...

Well then, never mind quetion number two then! That still leaves my first question, but thank you very much!