Saturday, July 23, 2011

Oslo: 80 dead - and they say it was done by a blond Norwegian!?

Click on the title to get the story from the Astute Blogger.

According to Wikipedia, the shooter, Anders Breivik Behring, owns and runs a company that has 790 employees.


9 comments:

midnight rider said...

Ok, if indeed he is a leftist he may have been trying to villainize the right.

OR

If he was an Islamophobic nationalist he may have been (hoping not to get caught) trying to get the blame put on Islam and ignite a Norwegian or Euro backlash which may sound crazy just ask Charles Manson

OR

these reports we're getting may all be bullshit.

Epaminondas said...

"National police chief Sveinung Sponheim told NRK that the suspected gunman's Internet postings "suggest that he has some political traits directed toward the right, and anti-Muslim views, but whether that was a motivation for the actual act remains to be seen."

Andersen said the suspect posted on websites with Christian fundamentalist tendencies. He did not describe the websites in any more details."

AP

If this, on line sat am at 6 DST east coast is correct, then not jumping to conclude the first reports are the reality may be a lesson here.

Myself included

Fox is reporting this cretin 'screaming you all must die' after calling the kids closer and it took the cops 30 minutes to get to the kids camp on the island.

32 yr old blond, ETHNIC NORWEGIAN with anti foreigner, anti muslim views

We have to be frank that this IS a set back for everything ANTI-SHARIA.

This is, if the reports now out are right, the act of a mass murdering bastard of the highest order, and he should be put in Norway's deepest darkest hole forever, and everyone everywhere who opposes the spread of sharia should be saying so.

Even in an ALL OUT WAR, this is an outright crime.

Always On Watch said...

Epa said:

We have to be frank that this IS a set back for everything ANTI-SHARIA.

I say: This is more that "a set back."

This is big trouble, fellow infidels!

Read carefully that article linked at TAB:

...He was known to be active on the internet, expressing extremist Islamophobic views on forums and criticizing immigration policies.

He recently claimed that politics today was not about socialism vs. capitalism but nationalism vs. internationalism. He argued on a Swedish news website that the media were not critical enough about Islam and claimed that Geert Wilders' Party for Freedom in the Netherlands was the only "true" party of conservatives....


A few minutes ago, I saw a comment over at Pamela's to the effect "he may even have commented here at this site."

The wedge has appeared -- the wedge that could well get all of us investigated. They'll search the hard drive of this guy's computer. Will any of our sites have been visited? If he visited any sites that linked to any of us, we'll be investigated.

All those dead kids!

I don't care if I sound paranoid.

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I've also read that Charles Johnson is blaming Pamela. I don't visit LGF any longer and haven't confirmed, but I wouldn't be surprised if CJ said such a thing.

There's also the false rumor that Fjordman was the shooter.

Ultimately, it won't matter if the reports as we now have them are true. What MATTERS is the early reports, and they are tarring any and all anti-shari'a, anti-Islamist folks. We are they -- the anti-Islamist folks, that is.

I'd like to believe that only the white-supremacist, anti-Islamist folks will be in trouble. But I think that such a belief is Pollyannish.

Epaminondas said...

Pamela is not responsible for this. That's absurd. If Johnson is saying that he attributes too much importance to her AND HIMSELF

But her tone, and her lack of control in terms of RESPONDING to rabid dog comments on her site send a message. It's a mistake, and one WE HAVE NOT COMMITTED.

In the current manner of thinking of this administration, I would not be rocked if this site and it's member attracted some attention, but there's no THERE, THERE.

This is NOT GoV, or it's ilk and we have always been disgusted by what passes for 'resistance to jihad' but is actually racially based cultural defense.

Always. From the BNP and EDL to VB. We have been unsparingly critical as authors AND in responding to commenters. We have admitted when we jump to conclusions and we have very little to be ashamed of in that way.

There is NO DOUBT this will damage Spencer, Bostom et al. But if Pamela and others had been as critical and up front as we have been in discerning and rejecting the racist seed among the anti jihadists we'd be a lot better off right now, wouldn't we?

Always On Watch said...

Epa,
Of course Pamela isn't responsible for this murderer's horrific deeds.

And, yes, we here at IBA have differed from other sites -- particularly in distancing ourselves from the groups you mentioned.

But will that difference "save" us? In this crazy political climate, any site this monster visited will be scrutinized -- and should be.

Understand that I am in no way ashamed.

By the way, the slant on this morning's news at NBC was that this monster used a gun. You can figure out how the rest of the report went. Hell, the report even cited Hassan -- not a word about Islam but a lot about how he used a firearm.

Epaminondas said...

Too bad one of the counselors was not armed, eh?
COPS took 30 minutes. This bastard freak was shooting people IN THE WATER AT LEISURE and unafraid because he knew NO ONE ELSE WAS ARMED.

Fox reports another arrest 'a man with a knife'

Always On Watch said...

A man with a knife?

Pastorius said...

What's weird to me is that this guy, who murdered over 80 people, was a reader of Mill, an admirer of Churchill, and an owner of a business that employed 790 people?!?!?

That's weird.

This guy is not the typical Philosophically-minded businessman, is he?

For God's sake.

Anonymous said...

it looks like it was a set up

somebody is cleaning the islamic connections